CLARK PLEADS GUILTY TO LE GRD ’13 MURDER; RECOMMENDED SENTENCE 44 YEARS

Raymond Clark III's mother, father and fiancée appeared at the hearing Thursday in which Clark pled guilty to the murder of Annie Le GRD '13. Clark's father spoke outside the courthouse.
Raymond Clark III's mother, father and fiancée appeared at the hearing Thursday in which Clark pled guilty to the murder of Annie Le GRD '13. Clark's father spoke outside the courthouse. Photo by Victor Kang.

UPDATED: 2:05 p.m. At 11:30 a.m. Thursday morning — just over 18 months after Annie Le GRD ’13 was found dead on the day she was to be married — Raymond Clark III pled guilty to her murder.

Clark, who was an animal technician in the same Yale building where Le worked, also pled guilty to criminal attempt to commit sexual assault, which for the first time reveals a possible motive for why he killed Le. Previously, Yale administrators had just called the murder a result of “workplace violence.”

At the hearing Connecticut Superior Court Judge Roland Fasano recommended a sentence of 44 years in prison for Clark. Although Connecticut sentencing guidelines say Clark can get anywhere from 25 to 80 years in prison for the crimes, the current recommendation was reached through a deal with the defense and prosecutors.

“Given the nature of the evidence that the state had, I think 44 years was his best option,” said Beth Merkin, one of Clark’s defense attorneys. “I think, had he gone to trial, we would have seen a much worse outcome.”

At the hearing, prosecutor David Strollo listed the extensive DNA, keycard, finger print and video evidence the state had against Clark. Strollo also revealed that Le’s body was found upside down, partially decomposed inside the wall with her jaw and collarbone broken.

According to Strollo, when Le was found her bra was pushed up and her panties were by her ankles. Seminal fluid was also found on her panty liner, but there was not enough to test if the DNA matched Clark’s. Other semen found on the scene matched Clark’s, he said.

As part of the guilty plea process, Strollo was required to list charge-substantiating details on the record. Although many of the facts had been released in reports (see here and here), some were made public for the first time.

Clark pled guilty to the charge of attempt to commit sexual assault under the Alford Doctrine which means he did not admit guilt, but acknowledges the state had enough evidence to convict him if the case went to trial.

“Sexual assault was always part of the evidence, and we were aware that the state would have added that charge, maybe some other charges as well,” Merkin said. “But for a variety of reasons we did not release this information before today.”

Le’s family was not present but Strollo said they planned to be present at sentencing. Strollo said that Le’s parents were satisfied with the recommended sentence but other family members thought Clark deserved more time.

Clark, who was wearing a blue button-down shirt and black pants, did not speak except to plead guilty and answer “yes” and “no” to the judge’s questions.

Clark’s father, mother, and fiancée, Jennifer Hromadka, were all present in the courtroom. After the hearing, Clark’s father, Raymond Clark II, read a statement to the press outside the courthouse.

“My family and I extend our deepest sympathy to the Le family,” he said. “I want you to know that Ray has expressed extreme remorse from the beginning. I can’t tell you how many times he sobbed uncontrollably, telling me how sorry he is.”

“Our hearts are broken,” he continued. “It doesn’t make any sense to us. This is not the Ray we know.”

Yale released a statement following the hearing which expressed relief that Le’s family did not have to go through any difficulties that a trial may have presented.

“We hope today’s guilty plea and the sentence that will follow will help bring closure to them and to all in the Yale community who suffered by her senseless killing,” the Office of Public Affairs release said.

Clark had previously pled not guilty in January 2010. His final sentence will be announced at a court date tentatively scheduled for May 20, but Merkin said Clark will definitely receive the recommended sentence of 44 years.

Grace Patuwo contributed reporting.

Comments

  • lalocruz

    I can’t stomach this fiance. In light of the new evidence, we have to assume that she’s a psychopath. Is there NOTHING she wouldn’t divorce him for doing? Also 44 years is far too lenient. Are we supposed to be glad things weren’t “much worse” for this murderer (and apparent rapist)? RIP Annie.

  • Quals

    The fact that the fiance still stands by Raymond, and worse, still works at the facility where many of Annie’s friends research, is disgusting.

    Obviously Yale cannot fire her. But if she had any sense of compassion she would leave ASAP.

    I hope that the other people in Amistad make her feel as welcome as she deserves.

  • jim08

    So what’s the deal with parole? It wasn’t mentioned. How soon can he really get out?

  • The Anti-Yale

    Stop harassing the fiancee. Mind your own business. Life is complicated enough.

    PK

  • pikadot

    When this first happened I felt little except abject sadness at the death of another graduate student in a similar facility. Even as the case intensified I withheld judgment, as any good scientist would, because I had no way of knowing what actually occurred. This news pierced me in new and entirely different ways. I feel sick to my stomach…not just for the pain and fear and degradation that Annie experienced, not just for her family and fiance upon whom doubt was cast as well, but for every blessed person who had to continue to work there, with these awful people, day in and day out. For a system that allows someone to plea guilty without admitting guilt, and that fails to account for the magnitude of the injustice suffered here.

  • 18atyale

    It is understandable that it is very difficult for Annie Le’s friends to be reminded of her and the gruesome crime that took place at the laboratory, however, Jennifer Hromadka did not commit this crime. Raymond Clark committed this crime. She should not have to stand trial; in a court of law, or in the court of public opinion. I am sure she has been asked by his lawyers to stand by him during the trial in hopes of shedding the slightest bit of light on his character. It won’t work, but lawyers usually go this route. This being said, she is clearly not the best judge of character.

  • The Anti-Yale

    ” with these awful people ”

    Stop. There is enough hatred in the world already. Stop.

    PK

  • pikadot

    Based on the original documents there was blood on his clothing, blood in their apartment, blood in their car. Anyone who overlooks someone showing up agitated and bloody is no less than an accomplice.

  • Quals

    Go hug a tree PK

  • rhedbobbin

    He deserves a lot more than 44 years. By that I mean a lot less time to live. What a terrible, brutal, and incredibly selfish crime.

  • The Anti-Yale

    Quals,

    I am not a pacifist. I can criticize when it it appropriate. It is not appropriate to further wound the wounded. One person (probably mentally ill) is responsible for the crime, not ‘these awful people.”

    Criticize me, (I can take it) but leave the wounded survivors in both families alone.

    PERIOD.

    PK

  • phb3495

    Life in prison should be the only sentence that was offered in lieu of the death penalty. These liberals are letting him off the hook by the ridiculous offer of 44 years. I am ashamed to be a part of this.

  • scleggett

    He should be under the 85% rule before he is considered for parole, about 37 years. His life is basically over. If the family agreed then fine. Yeah the fiance of his is sicker than most.

  • godard

    what do you expect from someone who is a murderer (and a torturer) by profession, an “animal technician?”

  • mulberryfield

    Poor Annie Le’s death managed to be become even more tragic. Why on earth did the fiance go???? She didn’t need to be there, especially considering the shocking horror of the new revelations which she most likely knew about all along. Can you imagine being her boss- oh yeah sure take the day off.

  • WillyLomein

    How much pressure did Yale apply on the DA’s office to cut a deal and complete the cover-up? Clearly, the university made an early decision to lie about the sadistic, sexual nature of this crime, instead calling it “workplace violence” despite immediate, obvious (and now public) evidence to the contrary. Now, after things have cooled off, what happens? The most unambiguously guilty, misogynistic, cretinous killer in Yale history gets a deal, and a great deal at that. As his lawyer says, a trial would have led to a “much worse outcome,” (i.e. justice), which is what we (Annie’s friends and colleagues) were expecting. However, said trial would have also meant weeks of salacious and grisly bad publicity for Yale. I can’t help but conclude that this was involved in the calculus because as I see it there was no reason whatsoever to offer Mr. Clark a plea. At least now we know that Yale would rather let a student murderer/rapist walk free again than risk even the most ephemeral brand damage. A disgrace.

  • townieexprof

    Since the NH Register and YDN missed this, you should read the NH Independent which adds this clarification:
    “Joe Tacopina, who is representing Le’s mother and her estate, said the family was grateful to prosecutors and investigators for their work. Nothing can bring Annie Le back, he said, but the guilty pleas were welcome news. “Justice has been served today. Having this predator admit his guilt in open court is something that was obviously very satisfying,” Tacopina said. The family is happy to avoid a trial, he said, but was prepared to endure one if necessary. Tacopina said Clark’s refusal to agree with the details of the charge in the attempted sexual assault makes the plea no less relevant. “He would’ve been found guilty by a jury,” he said. “He was found guilty by his own words today.” Tacopina said the family will wait until after the sentencing to decide whether to proceed with any civil lawsuits, against Yale or anyone else.

    Tacopina is an extremely successful and high profile criminal defense attorney. Hiring him meant everyone involved knew a very high profile and media savvy attorney was overseeing and checking on everything that happened. Victims and their families do have certain rights and I think it is highly likely Tacopina negotiated for the family in this outcome, with other things in mind.

    The family thanked the prosecutors and investigators which suggests they knew about the deal and may have not put pressure on the prosecutor’s office for a criminal trial that they would have to endure, because they may be considering going to a civil trial, possibly against the Clarks (who are trying to start the civil trial in the press by going out and saying how remorseful Ray was from the start blah blah blah) , the fiancee (any guesses why she was present now, since she may have aided in an attempted cover up?) or the employer (Yale) of the place where the attempted sexual assault and murder took place.

    If you hire Joe Tacopina, it is highly likely you are thinking of suing. The Le family took the high road today, insted of screaming about a lack of justice. Stay tuned.

  • nudelman

    WORK PLACE VIOLENCE. The head of the Division of Animal Care should get fired, and safe-guards put in place to make sure that no “posse” of related folks end up dominating a work environment so much they they not only intimidated a little graduate student and eventurally ended up murdering her. Although I’m a Yale alum, I believe Yale should be sued for allowing such hostilie and unsafe working conditions! I wouldn’t want my daughters going to graduate school there!

  • harbinger

    The whole miserable saga is a tragedy. But the comments equating animal techs with murderers, the pleas for a death sentence, and the hope for what can only be seen as a campaign of harrasment against Hromadka show one thing for certain. The Yale community, at least on the Med School side, is as savage and bloodthirsty as the rest of humanity. Remember these comments next time you pick up your harps and preach to the great unwashed. Your hypocrisy has been displayed for all to see and hear, welcome to the human race.

  • The Anti-Yale

    harbinger,

    What you so eloquently castigate is not hypocrisy, it is the human condition. It is up to those who
    accept and understand the human predicament, to try and rise above it.

    Il faut cultiver notre jardin ( We must cultivate our garden.) Candide says.

    Otherwise, it turns to weeds, as we see evidenced in the vitriol of some of the previous posts.

    PK

  • townieexprof

    from HuffPo:
    “Tacopina said the family is satisfied with the plea deal. He says Le’s mother did not attend the hearing because it would be too painful.

    “Every day has been a tough day,” Tacopina said. “It’s a tough day because there’s been a public acknowledgement that somebody murdered and attempted to sexually assault this poor young sweet girl for no reason.”

  • winteralfs

    The whole miserable saga is a tragedy. But the comments equating animal techs with murderers, the pleas for a death sentence, and the hope for what can only be seen as a campaign of harrasment against Hromadka show one thing for certain. The Yale community, at least on the Med School side, is as savage and bloodthirsty as the rest of humanity. Remember these comments next time you pick up your harps and preach to the great unwashed. Your hypocrisy has been displayed for all to see and hear, welcome to the human race.

    —-

    And what would you have people do then? This was not a “tragedy” i.e. the earthquake in Japan, this was a brutal, senseless and extremely furious beating, sexual assault, and murder of completely innocent young woman. In other words, a heinous and completely avoidable crime. People are judged by their actions, or is that too cruel a concept for you. If his fiance chooses to stand by her man despite his pretty damn obvious character flaws, then she will reap the rewards of that choice. Should we all just forgive and forget, why not let Ray Clark out now then? Its what the Clarks as well as Hromadka certainly desired, given how much time they took to make this belated statement and how much support they gave him before they knew he had no chance of a better deal. The anger expressed is natural given what occurred, and that anger has a tangible direction as this was not an act of god but one of man, and those who make the choice to support said man will be judged by that choice.

  • yalestudent

    Hey PK,
    Has it occurred to you that telling grieving people what to feel, even criticizing them for feeling angry and hurt when an utter tragedy occurs, is a kind of violence in itself? You are so quick to defend Raymond Clark’s fiance and yet you simultaneously attack these commenters, who are 100% innocent in this crime and are struggling to come to terms with this heinous, terrifying event that occurred in our community.

    If you truly believe in treating others gently, it follows that you should refrain from harshly criticizing people you don’t even know for expressing completely understandable human emotions in the face of almost unimaginable tragedy.

  • The Anti-Yale

    yalestudent,

    I agree with you entirely and I believe I was addressing your point in my comments to harbinger:

    “What you so eloquently castigate is not hypocrisy, it is the human condition. It is up to those who accept and understand the human predicament, to try and rise above it.
    Il faut cultiver notre jardin ( We must cultivate our garden.) Candide says.
    Otherwise, it turns to weeds, as we see evidenced in the vitriol of some of the previous posts”

    I doubt that telling someone to stop abusing others is “criticizing them for feeling angry and hurt when an utter tragedy occurs”.

    It’s just saying, stop abusing others.

    And my comment to “harbinger”offers the option of rising above ” expressing completely understandable human emotions in the face of almost unimaginable tragedy” when such expression belittles other human beings, “these awful people” . . .”fiancee . . .is sicker than most., etc.

    PK

  • joey00

    I need to catch my breath, i was pretty tired, Of chasing all the rats that are infested in your Yale communities ( Hospitals,Med schools/labs,College to Howe,Trumbull/Hillhouse Ave. etc)
    So many are running on the leash of union and administration , it’s hard to distinguish the type of rats, but rats one and all…Not much of any plan to rid the town, or who pied pipered them in ..
    Sadly they are all entitled rats, with silver bells. None are Joe nobodies.

  • yalestudent

    PK, his fiance has stood behind him even though it’s clear that he committed this brutal murder. There even seems to be evidence that she may have tried to shield him from being held responsible.

    Of course I absolutely do not agree with suggestions that individuals take it upon themselves to make the fiance feel unwelcome or threaten the fiance in any way. However, Quals is right that, if the fiance has any degree of compassion, she should consider seeking employment elsewhere, out of respect for all the people who need to be able to study and work in this community and for whom this tragedy is extremely personal.

    Your comments seem to suggest that it is somehow wrong for Yale community members, some of whom knew and loved Annie Le, to not want to work in the same environment as a woman who apparently sympathizes with Annie’s murderer. For those who still live and work and study at Yale, caring about whether his fiance still works here *is* “minding our own business”. For many of us, this tragedy is extremely personal. Even for those who didn’t know Annie, her murder shook us to our core and still haunts.

    When you post pithy comments criticizing others, please consider that, for some commenters, this tragedy is extremely personal, and what happens in the aftermath is their/our business.

  • The Anti-Yale

    yalestudent,

    I understand that it is extremely personal. I also understand ‘the human heart in conflict with itself”. What was the fiancee supposed to do? Desert her espoused?

    Recall the Boston medical student who murdered girls he met on-line and then strangled. The fiancee stuck by him, even allowing herself to be interviewed.

    After murders I witnessed on a university campus, we had to work with those we thought culpable, including the president of the university who was sipping his martini at the local Brown Derby at the moment the students were shot. Further I continued to be paid, housed and fed by the State of Ohio whose governor ordered the troops on to campus as much to enhance his then current campaign for the U.S. Senate as to preserve order.

    While I was not emotionally involved PRIOR to the murders with any of the students, I was a dorm counselor in the complex with one of the female victims, and saw her every day of the school year. I became very emotionally involved with all four of the victims and worked with their grieving parents after the shootings.

    I say this merely to make it clear, I am not being an armchair philosopher here. I’ve been in the emotional trenches of a murder scene and its aftermath, for years, not just days.

    Persons on both sides of this issue need space and time. Best to confine one’s attacks to official incompetence, not to the mixed motives of the human heart which beats in the chest of every one of us.

    PK

  • The Anti-Yale

    yalestudent,

    I understand that it is extremely personal. I also understand ‘the human heart in conflict with itself”. What was the fiancee supposed to do? Desert her espoused?

    Recall the Boston medical student who murdered girls he met on-line and then strangled. The fiancee stuck by him, even allowing herself to be interviewed.

    After murders I witnessed on a university campus, we had to work with those we thought culpable, including the president of the university who was sipping his martini at the local Brown Derby at the moment the students were shot. Further I continued to be paid, housed and fed by the State of Ohio whose governor ordered the troops on to campus as much to enhance his then current campaign for the U.S. Senate as to preserve order.

    While I was not emotionally involved PRIOR to the murders with any of the students, I was a dorm counselor in the complex with one of the female victims, and saw her every day of the school year. I became very emotionally involved with all four of the victims and worked with their grieving parents after the shootings.

    I say this merely to make it clear, I am not being an armchair philosopher here. I’ve been in the emotional trenches of a murder scene and its aftermath, for years, not just days.

    Persons on both sides of this issue need space and time. Best to confine one’s attacks to official incompetence, not to the mixed motives of the human heart which beats in the chest of every one of us.

    PK

  • Yaleelf

    44 years…. Just think of that when you look at your co-worker working next to you. The PI you work for, the lab tech you pass on the street while getting food at the lunch carts. When you look at yourself in a mirror. Take a look and say if it was me, if was the woman in the office next to me, 44 years – does that even seem fair? In the details released Annie was ALIVE to endure a broke jaw, blunt force trauma to her head- his DNA was on her undergarments- his semen to be exact. She was left dead exposed, her body defiled disrespected stuffed in a utility space. I am sorry to be so specific but if we are going to defend, or judge let us all be clear what we are talking about here. If there is anyway that this man can get more time, endure a trial of some sort, never get parole I hope there is some sort of saving grace. He is a monster. Even though his relatives and friends are not the monster that he is, I can understand people not wanting to be around the people who are reminders of this horrid event. I also cannot imagine being a mother, father or fiance to a monster like this and have to endure the ramifications. This is a no win tragic, ugly, heartbreaking situation that will linger with all of us forever. It tests the trust and safety we all have in our co-workers and work place. I think much more grieving is needed. And with this new and disgusting plea deal and details- I think people should seek out support for friends, family and counselors. This is going to be hard on everyone

  • Sad_Randy

    This is a highly emotional subject. Personally I have attended the Benefit Concert in her name for the foundation which was started, as well as visited her final resting place just days before the one year anniversary of her loss. I have always assumed that this monster sexually assaulted her. Through the months, I tried to give this animal a way out. To find a way to rationalize it. To try to believe he just “snapped”. But none of this is true. After his horrific act he tried to fish evidence out of the wall where Annie laid and then tried to mask the odor with air fresheners. He didn’t “snap and panic”. He is a monster. But reading all your comments, while I agree with so many of them, I just need to say one thing. We did not search for justice here. Justice would be that rc3 would be put to death and with that act, Annie could return. Anything short of this, does not equate to justice. Now we share the pain of people like Jonathan, her father, mother, uncle, brother, friends, & colleagues. We try to keep Annie close to our hearts and learn some valuable lessons. She seemed to have been a wonderful person and someone who we should not be embarassed to let influence our lives. A woman who after finals went to the local soup kitchen to feed the homeless rather than celebrating with her friends. A woman who bought a bagel slicer for her colleagues so they would not cut themselves. A woman who was so in love with her fiance that she simply did not want to wait until they had finished school. There must be something we can learn. Let’s try to not hate. Let’s try to show some respect for others. Especially we guys. Let’s find a way to respect women and pass along to other men that “no still means no”.

    I never knew Annie, but not a day goes by that I don’t think about her and Jon. Her loss seems to be a tremendous loss for everyone. It’s OK to hurt.

    May Annie’s life (not death) stay with you forever.

  • The Anti-Yale

    “he is a monster”

    This assertion assumes he did not grow up in the most hedonistic culture since ancient Rome; was not bombarded by thousands of visual messages every day of his life-in-front-of-advertising which suggest that sexual conquest is a game and anyone who doesn’t win is a loser; that he was not surrounded by a culture which mouths moderation with alcohol and abstinence from drugs and PRACTICES NEITHER; that he has not been raised in a culture which trivializes the most effective Skinner-Box ever devised by religion: Hell.

    If this person is a monster, he was created by the society which we all support, myself included, with our silent consent, attention, and money.

    I know from personal experience that the reaction to proximity to murder can be a delayed one (two years in my case) and the suggestions that people seek support and counselling are wise and prudent.

    PK

  • Sad_Randy

    MONSTER!

  • Dmitry

    He is a real monster. While nothing short of incineration in hell seems appropriate to me as retribution for his heinous and unspeakable crime, I force myself to believe that the sentencing outcome was negotiated in the best interests of Annie’s family. It is the family interests that should come in the first place, and the negotiations appeared to be a complex interplay of multiple factors, most importantly the hardships of the family going through the horror of a criminal trial and the possibility of future litigation.

    The latter factor holds a particular significance. The gruesome crime could have been prevented or mitigated, had the appropriate measures been put into effect. Some questions just keep stirring my mind. At the time of the fire alarm on the day of the murder, why wasn’t there anybody checking the basement labs to make sure no personnel was left behind? It is an ordinary, low-cost safety procedure which is mandatory in industrial research setting: why wasn’t it implemented at Yale? Why wasn’t carrying Annie from one room to another been immediately spotted by the building security? There were allegedly tens of cameras in the building, was there a single one of them functioning in the basement hallway on the day of the murder? While some officials attribute the tragedy to the “dark side of the human soul,” the bottom line is that Annie was assaulted and lost her life on the University’s premises. Those premises that were expected to be maintained to guarantee her safe work and study environment. It is with the trust in competence and professionalism of the school officials that I let my children get on the school bus every morning. It is exactly this trust that was breached for Annie, resulting in an unimaginable nightmare for her loved ones.

    On the weekends, when I take my seven-year old son to the Union Station to watch the trains coming in and going out, we often stop by the Amistad building. My son rushes to the front step to place a rose for Annie. He asks me where Annie lives, and I tell him that she lives in Heaven. He seems to be satisfied with my answer, and I keep telling him what a smart, caring, and loving person she was, the values that I would like to instill in him. Annie lived a short but remarkable life. While she is not physically present with us, she will always be in our thoughts and prayers.

  • Sad_Randy

    Dmitry, I flew to Los Angeles for business in September last year. I diverted my return home and went to San Fran. A friend, whom I met because of trying to deal with this tragedy met me and we drove 3 hours to visit her resting place. It is a beautiful little cemetery. Quite, tasteful, peaceful! A place seemingly fitting if that makes any sense. It was an emotional day but had this warm feeling come over me. I’m not sure what that was, it just happened. I left two stones on her just placed headstone. That is customery in the Jewish religion that someone has visited. I thought I would leave one for our visit and one for Jonathan who seems so far away from her now.

    Your son is learning some very important things in life. He makes me feel that in a world filled with so much ugliness, he will remember one beautiful person.

  • Dmitry

    Randy, it is so great that you were able to pay respect to Annie and her family by visiting her resting place. What happened to Annie is a terrible tragedy that even affected people who never knew her. I am praying for Jonathan and for Annie’s family to be strong in going through this difficult time. My heart and my thoughts extend to you and to all Annie’s friends who knew and loved her. May her memory be eternal …

  • The Anti-Yale

    Dmitry,

    You raise legitimate questions. They should be answered, “dark side of the human soul” or not.

    PK

  • Dmitry

    PK, I would rather phrase the question, whether the “dark side of the human soul” was solely responsible for the loss of a young woman and a brilliant scientist.

  • Sad_Randy

    I’m not sure that Yale is at fault concerning background checks because I am not sure his past would have indicated anything (unless background checks go to ex-girlfriends with an axe to grind). I also believe that the building was as secure. I know I have never worked in a building that secure, so I don’t believe they were negligent there either. Even after Thursday’s “conclusion” I still wonder about that fire alarm. I had the same question. Why did Yale Security & Fire Departments not making thorough room checks to be sure that all the rooms were emptied, by law? But even more disturbing to me is the haunting thought that it was not steam which set that alarm off. What if it was Annie calling for help?

    Dmitry, in April I decided to attend the Benefit Concert for the Annie Le Scholarship Foundation held by Yale in Manhattan. It was a quick one hour flight, so it seemed like a no-brainer. It was a beautiful event and a place which was filled with people who knew and loved Annie. It was the first time I felt as if I belonged somewhere in all this, even though I never knew her. After the intermission, I noticed a young man sitting directly across the church from me. I thought “I know him”. Minutes later I noticed he was fidgiting with a wedding band which seems never to fit quite right. After the event I approached him to tell him how sorry I was for his loss. I wanted him to know that there are people out there who care. Jonathan seems like a good “kid”. It was heartbreaking to be face to face with a man who has lost so much of his life… past, present, and future. The rest of us lost something very special without even knowing what that is.

  • joey00

    Some folks are not too sure about the State of Ct sentencing guidelines and interpretations of.
    Everyone wishes that this never happened,but it did , and everyone is breathing easier . But lately we’ve been reading of quite a few arrests both in New Haven and the State of Ct. Where arrestees were actually arrested before, for murder then convicted of manslaughter.
    So and so was arrested back in ’86 for gunning down …Latest on was like ’92 , released with ankle bracelets and half way homes etc. – Maybe those were dealt with in a different fashion, like 20 yrs to life …?!

  • Dmitry

    Randy, I really wanted to go to the Benefit Concert, but because of the prior commitment, I was not able to. So I made a donation to Annie’s Scholarship Fund in her memory. If the Foundation has plans to hold the concert again, I will be there.

  • Sad_Randy

    Dmitry, It was quite an event. The music was so beautiful and the feeling of belonging was overwhelming. I flew down for the day, spent the night at my parents home, and flew back in time for work. Just to mention, another really nice charity is the “I Have a Dream Foundation” which Annie and Jon registered jointly with their gift registry. It enables gifted, economically handicapped children to seek higher education. They wrote me a beautiful letter of thanks which Yale did not. I’ll see you at the next concert.

  • kattrby

    townieexprof is absolutely right to pick up on the Joe Tacopina presence.

    But Joe Tacopina does not in fact represent the family in which Annie grew up, learned, made her way to Yale. As everyone who actually knew her, or actually knows her family, would know. And the more he pumps up the emotions, the more that good quiet family will get hurt. He wants his slice of $$$$$, they want a quiet chance to grieve. He will look for every possible way to raise the temperature, with florid statements and nit-picking about this or that insanely minute point of security detail at 10 Amistad. He is very very good at that – among the best. That’s how he works.

    But, people of good heart, do not be deceived. To Sad_Randy: you are on the right wavelength. It really is a matter of desperate sorrow, not $$$$$, and for those who were in truth closest to events, public melodrama is the very worst thing that could happen. Some very good people will get hurt. Again and again.

    Never mind about retribution and punishment. That man is gone until he is 70 years old, and he will come out of prison as a hopeless wreck. This I have seen. We must try to look after the people who might get hurt tomorrow, for $$$$$.

    So – let’s try to keep the temperature down. We cannot do much, but we can do that.

  • pikadot

    Kattrby makes a good point.

  • Quals

    Fortunately, baby-faced white boys from suburban CT get passed around like bags of oreos in prison, he will get what he deserves.

  • Goober

    I didn`t know Annie or anyone involved unlike some people commenting. I agree with the assessment that it was a tragedy and that Clark deserves to suffer for a long time for it. I don`t envy anyone alive and having to face a long prison term. What really really has bugged me about this case has been that dishonesty about everything has plagued it, as well as double standards. When a case becomes high profile in the US, people learn every lurid detail. With this particular case, the lurid details were not only hidden from the public by the school and law enforcement (who provided flimsy pretexts for why they believed the murder happened), but we are somehow told that it`s wrong for us to want to know such general things as a motive. Well, that should apply to all murder cases in the US then. Why is this different. Why is the Amanda Knox case made into a movie, but our interest in this one is questioned. The ridiculous motive that was given since 2009 led many people to believe that they could be killed for leaving a mouse cage dirty. It`s immoral in my opinion to spread lies like that and tell the curious public to be satisfied with such nonsense. I want to know why Clark really killed her. I never bought workplace violence, and I don`t buy a random assault. Clark pled guilty to murder. He refused to plead guilty to sexual assault on principle. why, am i permitted to ask, why. why.

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