DKE apologizes for pledge chants

After the campus outcry sparked by Delta Kappa Epsilon’s inflammatory pledge ritual on Old Campus Wednesday night, the fraternity apologized to the Yale Women’s Center in a meeting in Linsly-Chittenden Hall Thursday night.

After the meeting, attended by four DKE brothers and five Women’s Center board members, both parties expressed optimism that they could construct a “productive relationship” in the future. Also present at the meeting was Melanie Boyd ’90, director of undergraduate studies for Women’s Gender and Sexuality Studies and special adviser to both the Center and the Dean of Yale College on Gender Issues.

In the wake of the incident, fraternities Sigma Alpha Epsilon and Sigma Phi Epsilon condemned DKE’s actions and supported the Women’s Center’s Thursday announcement that it would hold a forum about the incident Friday. Members of DKE, Yale College Dean Mary Miller and Dean of Student Affairs Marichal Gentry have said they will attend the forum, the Women’s Center said.

At their pledge initiation on Old Campus, DKE members shouted phrases such as “No means yes, yes means anal” and “My name is Jack, I’m a necrophiliac, I f— dead women.” Some of the students were blindfolded and being led in a line with their hands on each others’ shoulders.

In an e-mail to the News Thursday, DKE President Jordan Forney ’11 called the pledge chants “inappropriate, disrespectful, and very hurtful to others.”

“It was a serious lapse in judgement by the fraternity and in very poor taste,” he said, adding that DKE does not condone sexual violence.

The Women’s Center deemed the actions “hate speech” and “an active call for sexual violence” in an e-mail to the News Wednesday night. The Center sent out e-mails condemning the incident to the panlists of organizations including some of Yale’s sororities, Freshman Outdoor Orientation Trip leaders, Yale Hillel, and MECha, the Chicano student organization. Within hours, accounts of the event were circulating throughout the undergraduate community.

Business Coordinator Elizabeth Deutsch ’11 said the Women’s Center sees its role now as helping to bring people together to discuss this issue and figure out how to move forward. She said the organization does not want to be antagonistic and wants to collaborate with DKE and others to help make Yale’s sexual culture more respectful. She said the Center wants to make Yale a place where people think about their language and actions to prevent future incidents.

The Women’s Center compared Wednesday’s events to an incident in January 2008 when 12 Zeta Psi pledges stood outside the Center holding signs that read “We Love Yale Sluts.”

Kathryn Olivarius ’11, who served on the Women’s Center board in 2008-09, said that sexist incidents, including the “no means yes” chant, have happened before at Yale. She said these types of incidents tend to repeat themselves every year or two since there is not enough education about sexism and other prejudices at Yale and there is little memory for these things.

But Deutsch said she thinks Yale culture has changed since the Zeta debacle.

“I think that the fact that the e-mail and the video went viral last night shows the campus is at a different place,” she said. “There seems to be a broad consensus that this is unacceptable.”

When William Bradley ’12, president of SAE, heard of the event Wednesday night, he contacted the Women’s Center and the Pi Beta Phi sorority to express his regrets about the incident and apologize on behalf of SAE.

But Bradley referred to the pledge’s chanting of “SAE” during their initiation as part of the good-natured rivalry between the two frats and “friendly banter.” President of Sigma Nu Matt Chesky ’12 said he thought despite the campus reaction, DKE did not intend to offend anyone.

James Berry ’12, president of SigEp, said he did not see the issues of sexism and sexual violence as limited to Greek life at Yale, but rather as a larger issue that is not talked about enough.

Harry McNamara ’11, president of Sigma Chi, and Bill Toth ’11, president of Alpha Epsilon Pi, declined to comment on the incident.

Miller also called the incident an opportunity for discussion and education.

Although she said DKE’s chants were “appalling,” she added that she was happy to have been asked to lead the panel at the forum.

The deans and masters of Davenport, Calhoun and Pierson colleges also sent out e-mails to their students, and offered opportunities for students to discuss the issue.

“The plain fact is that in 2010 it is time to question some aspects of activity that HAVE NO PLACE at Pierson and at Yale,” the e-mail to Piersonites said. “Pledging to a fraternity gives nobody the right to hurt or verbally assault a single Piersonite.”

The “Forum on Yale’s Sexual Climate” will take place today at 1:00 p.m. in LC room 102.

Comments

  • djgibboni

    When does Jerry Brown show up at the Yale Women’s Center and offer his apology?

  • ldffly

    A plague on both their houses.

  • FailBoat

    > After the campus outcry sparked by Delta Kappa Epsilon’s inflammatory pledge ritual on Old Campus Wednesday night, the fraternity apologized to the Yale Women’s Center in a meeting in Linsly-Chittenden Hall Thursday night.

    Why should they be apologizing to the Yale Women’s Center rather than simply Yale women? As far as I am aware, most women at Yale do not identify with the Yale Women’s Center and it certainly does not speak for them.

  • TC11

    @Failboat – I agree that apologizing to the Women’s Center, rather than the entire Yale community, is a poor choice of words by DKE and/or the YDN. The Women’s Center simply furthered the dialogue and gave it authority and direction. Also, many more women would identify with the goals of the Women’s Center if they better understood how reasonable those goals were, rather than re-hash the same name-calling every time an incident like this comes up. Respect isn’t radical, after all.

  • bernstein

    There’s more at stake here than who apologizes to whom. Yale students are supposedly getting an education, a very expensive one, that will give them all sorts of advantages when they graduate. Out here, in the “real world,” the sort of behavior exhibited by DKE will get someone fired instantly. In many fields, more than half the managers and professionals are women and there is absolutely no tolerance for the idiotic attitude displayed by the DKE leadership, who I assume are upperclassmen. What seems apparent is that Yale students, and their families, are paying boatloads of money for an education that is leaving them poorly prepared to navigate in professional life after graduation. It also seems that Yale, and its fraternities, have absolutely no idea what effective leadership actually means.

  • yalewife

    This frat needs its charter revoked. There is no excuse for this. None.

  • FailBoat

    > Also, many more women would identify with the goals of the Women’s Center if they better understood how reasonable those goals were, rather than re-hash the same name-calling every time an incident like this comes up. Respect isn’t radical, after all.

    Respect is merely a subset of what the Yale Women’s Center stands for. The Yale Women’s Center is dominated and predominated by radical feminists. Lines and stances that I’ve heard from women on the Yale Women’s Center board over the past few years:

    – Aliza Shvarts’ senior project both had significant artistic merit and in good taste.
    – Women who choose to act as stay-at-home moms are traitors to their gender
    – Capitalism is anti-feminist
    – The United States is the most anti-woman nation in the world
    – All hierarchies are by definition patriarchal since hierarchy and structure are masculine constructs
    – Post-birth abortion should be legalized (see: Peter Singer)
    – There is no biological difference between men and women – it is entirely a social construct
    – The overwhelming majority of men at Yale actively and knowingly attempt to oppress women in their everyday lives
    – Gendered pronouns (ie: he or she) are relics of a bigoted society.
    – Marriage is sexual slavery
    – Letting the man pay on a date is tantamount to prostitution
    – Directed Studies is an attempt to defend the patriarchy
    – Women who vote Republican are brainwashed
    – Religion was designed to oppress women
    – Condoms are patriarchal since they put men in control of safe sex
    – Condoms are feminist since they let women avoid pregnancy
    – Men should be required to submit their DNA to a database upon entering college, since 1 in 4 women is raped in college.

    So yes, many women agree with the Yale Women’s Center that women should be respected. However, the rest of the laundry list is a little more contentious.

  • TC11

    @Failboat – though it is now too late for you to attend the forum on Yale’s sexual climate, I would still encourage you to speak with this year’s Board. While all of them are surely feminists, I suspect few of them see complex gender issues in the black-and-white, farcical way you suggest. I imagine it would help your impression of the Women’s Center, and feminists in general.

  • townieexprof

    As a brother Deke, (different college/chapter, different generation) I am neither surprised nor approving. When, many years ago, I lived a few houses down from this frat house, I HAD to go over @ 3 AM when they were dressed in togas in the backyard, and blasting music and having pledges down large amounts of grain alcohol and then throw up in the bushes. My pleas to cease and desist, since we had a young child trying to sleep (this was when Lake Place was less trashy ) were met with indifference and ignorance. As a physician, when I saw the pledges in early stages of alcohol poisoning and downing large amounts of alcohol—required—, I tried to speak the the president of the chapter to no avail. Duh.

    It is hard to change culture.

    But to the Daily News, why did you run the video puff piece of two women undergrads interviewing the president of DKE just last week. “A video tour of DKE house.” Really? Who cares BTW? I mean besides these two young women.

    The entire piece consisted of them asking questions of this young man, laughing at everything he said, and generally fawning over and flirting with him. “You didnt mention that you are a FOOTBALL player! Ooooh!” Instead of asking: “Why do you have stale old vomit on the floor and stairs?”

    As a DKE, I think the national org should ask that their charter be revoked.

  • FailBoat

    > While all of them are surely feminists, I suspect few of them see complex gender issues in the black-and-white, farcical way you suggest.

    I suspect you have not asked the right questions. Some of these views were volunteered – others were induced through discussion and conversation – but all are the true views of a handful of board members on the YWC.

  • muzik101

    The fact that DKE was chanting “SAE” after yelling out these repulsive songs/lines is a clear admission of guilt. They knew what they were doing was not acceptable, so they wanted to spread the blame to a different fraternity. Shame on them. I personally heard the chants on old campus and thought that it was SAE doing the yelling (as I’m sure others did as well). Only after reading the YDN did I realize it was truly DKE.

    On another note, it’s quite comical that they are apologizing now that they got in trouble. I can promise you they did not have a change of heart overnight. These guys are awful.

  • ohno

    FailBoat, those are some great strawmen you’ve got going on there. Your beliefs about the Women’s Center should have no bearing on whether or not you (or anyone else) think what the pledges did was wrong.

    I’m with Bernstein – why should they be insulated from any kind of real public retribution? And I’m not talking, chapter hangs its head in shame, because let’s be honest, this wasn’t the entire chapter’s fault, nor was all of DKE chanting. The people directly involved are getting out of this and out of Yale without a single spot on their name because of this incident, whereas two, three, four years from now, when they graduate, this kind of thing, backed up by a YouTube clip, would disqualify them from being considered seriously for public office or any kind of high profile job.

  • bltiger

    Thanks DKE. I’m a Yale, but not DKE alum, busily building a law practice in a ‘blue city’ amidst a red state. A word from the trenches: American civic and political culture is really weird and volatile right now, so people take a hard look at who you choose to associate yourself with. As a Yale alum, I’ve been granted opportunities for education, employment and social access I wouldn’t have had without that association. I pay my alumni dues as a result. I imagine many of those who choose to pledge DKE also do so with the belief that association with what is held-out as an august and honorable group will bring with it an enhanced privilege. And, in many ways, they are correct. DKE has special affiliation with Yale, and the Yale Club in New York also serves as a sort of national clubhouse for DKE members, even if they didn’t go to Yale. HOWEVER, when I get confronted by women in my community, asking if I’d heard about this, what I think about this, how I can defend this (even before I try) – I gotta tell ya, it’s tough to preserve one’s professional and civic reputation with this making the news and blogs and all over the social media networks that anyone in the information industry (as most of you will work either for someone else or seeking your own fortune as a lawyer, banker, photographer, writer or whatever) when a bunch of dudes who you can’t help but be associated with through associated with the famous-American moniker ‘Yale’, one that normally denotes respect, essentially poop on it by acting like privileged woman-hating barbarian heels straight out of the worst nightmares of the daughters, mothers, grandmothers who worry about sexual assault and equality on elite campuses. We already have a culture that’s, in places, currently primed to dislike and attempt to ‘equalize’ people who are perceived as having been privileged. Don’t do this again, it hurts the alums, it hurts the institution trying to make you better people, it hurts the women, and, if none of that matters to you, you should know it hurts yourselves.

  • FailBoat

    > FailBoat, those are some great strawmen you’ve got going on there. Your beliefs about the Women’s Center should have no bearing on whether or not you (or anyone else) think what the pledges did was wrong.

    And it doesn’t.

  • ProspyDad

    As the father of a highly intelligent high school senior, whose dream is to attend Yale and is applying for Early Decision, I am disgusted. I do not want my daughter living among these kind of cretins. I thought that Yale was a center for progressive thought, not a hotbed of disrespectful, dangerous apes who find humor in acts of violence against impressionable young women.

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